Date: Tue May 24 09:59:53 2005
Sender: Red Burley
The first set of many questions I will have, Im sure-
1) Im assuming the position abbreviation SW stands for sweeper-a term I have
heard but have no idea what it means. What is the difference between a sweeper
and a regular defenseman?
2) Should I assume that the player development model is different from the rest
of Del leagues; i.e., players reach their peak at a much younger age-as in RL
soccer?
Date: Wed May 25 07:21:53 2005
Sender: Serge Kassabian
hello,
a SW is a player that will play on almost the whole field. another name for
that position is libero if you are more familiar with that name. a SW needs a
very high ball control, and must me a good passer. of course who would like a
dumb SW?
for the age question, yes in deed. you'll see rarely players doing what romario
used to do as his age. but in the del world, you should always keep an eye on
training. even if a player is 22 and his training is 24, he has finished
progressing. for retirement, you'll find on your team page a list of players
that would, probably would, certainly would or wouldn't retire. of course you
don't get info about players under 30. i have seen players over 44 because
coachs signed them for 10 years when they were 34, but now players can decide
how long they want to play, so that must be becomming rare.
hope this answers your questions
Date: Wed May 25 12:09:36 2005
Sender: Red Burley
I've never heard the term libero-but I gather it means a sweeper (in Del usage)
is a defenseman who is free to move up when on the attack?
Date: Wed May 25 18:25:12 2005
Sender: Serge Kassabian
it is a player who can play all positions. he is most importantly a player that
helps move the ball upfield.
Date: Thu May 26 10:13:42 2005
Sender: Red Burley
Ok, I guess I understand. He plays wherever the ball is?
Date: Thu May 26 11:05:30 2005
Sender: Serge Kassabian
if you go through the teams' roster, you'll see that this isn't a position very
used. maybe you shouldn't lose this much time on something that has been tested
by all coachs and that hasn't served for anything. it is a great idea in the
real word, not in del.
Date: Thu May 26 14:00:47 2005
Sender: Red Burley
Ok.
Date: Fri May 27 20:19:55 2005
Sender: Karim Cheaib
I do not completly agree with serge in regards to the sweeper.
In modern soccer, you do not see this position any more. He use to play on DF
and will skatter the DF from right to left, and will be the link between the DF
and MF. but you rarely see him go up the field. am going to try to schematize
it for you. But keep in mind that this is the style of play from the 80's mid
90's, and now days, it's much different.
With a sweeper and a blocker:
---------x(1)--------
---x-------------x
---------x(2)--------
1: Blocker or Stoppeur in french
2: Sweeper or Libero in french
Now days, you will more see the DF on one same line, with 4 defencemen, or
three defencemen:
--x-----x---x-----x
or
---x------x------x
Hope this helps
In regards to Aging, Serge gave you a great explination!!!
Date: Sat May 28 17:16:39 2005
Sender: Red Burley
Thanks, Karim-
As it turns out, I dont really have anyone on my roster that would fit the
"mold" for a sweeper; so I guess the point is moot :-) And as someone totally
new to soccer, Im probably better off sticking with more conventional
formations . . .
Date: Fri Jun 3 02:39:32 2005
Sender: Klaus Von Meyerinck
Karim is right about the role of a sweeper. Libero comes from latin and means
free man. So opposed to the defenders he had no forward to guard, he was the
free man behind the denfenders. in defense he had the task to close the gaps
and serve as the very last line of defense and when possesing the ball he was
the one to open up the game but mostly in the own half. only seldom sweepers
were seen advancing to the opponents half and they sure did not play everywhere
where the ball was.
but as karim said this is a thing of the past, in germany some teams still
stick around with this concept since we had been used to it for decades and
munichs franz beckenbauer was one of the best sweepers in the world in his time
(70s, 80s), maybe the best. but more and more german teams are playing defense
with 4 defenders (sometimes 3) on a line, called something like "four man
chain". in my former years in del soccer i always have used this type of
defense as well. but how this sim relates to real soccer is quite a different
story...
Date: Fri Jun 3 06:03:52 2005
Sender: AJ Perko
my definition of the sweeper was sort of the captain for the defense, he would
usually be behind the defense directing the line, acting as a final defense and
looking to intercept any passes caused through pressure by the other defenders.
Offensively, I didn't really figure him in to much of the plans.
Date: Sun Jun 5 15:39:21 2005
Sender: Karim Cheaib
Now days, the GK plays quite an important role in directing the DF.
Date: Sun Jun 5 17:05:40 2005
Sender: AJ Perko
So from a defensive "only" view.....
most of you veterans think a in DEL 4 DF's is better than 3 DF's and a SW?
In scrimmages, I didn't notice any offensive contribution from my sweeper....
however, the difference in defense is purely speculative on my part?
Date: Sun Jun 5 17:30:36 2005
Sender: Karim Cheaib
AJ, i usually have very offensive team, and i go with a 4 man DF. It usually
gives you more security in the back, and you will get some offensive help from
one of your DF. it's not uncome to get like 15-20 Assists by one of my DF's
Date: Mon Jun 6 15:04:25 2005
Sender: AJ Perko
I was more asking about why the DEL sweeper doesn't work....
is it a lack of results offensively? or defensively?
Date: Mon Jun 6 20:19:04 2005
Sender: Karim Cheaib
I would say that i dont know much since i have never tried it before.
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