Date: Thu Apr 24 10:31:03 2008
Sender: Chris Oaks
I have this guy at CB, Bob used him at LB last year.
S.Ryan CB Jr 7 2 6 7 4 4 2 0 15
How useful is PB and RB for a corner, generally speaking? Is his 4/4 a waste at
CB? Any opinions?
Date: Thu Apr 24 10:34:50 2008
Sender: Kyle Mayhugh
It's useful if you blitz him.
I can't tell you how much it is useful in the open field. I suspect it helps,
but I don't know for sure.
Date: Thu Apr 24 11:04:40 2008
Sender: Gregor Ellis
Somewhat useful but not very. I'd use him at OLB and blitz him regularly unless
the other team has a hot TE or TB you want covered. He lets you use 3 LB sets
against 3WR formations and that makes up for the somewhat low Rs at OLB.
Date: Thu Apr 24 11:59:18 2008
Sender: Chris Oaks
Is there a difference in effectiveness between a designed blitz and the delayed
blitz LBs do when they're not covering someone?
Date: Thu Apr 24 12:34:06 2008
Sender: Ken Perry
Yes, a designed blitz is, from what Andy has said, more effective.
Date: Thu Apr 24 12:53:32 2008
Sender: Ken Perry
BTW - I'd still play that guy at CB, not OLB, even though the PB/RB are almost
totally wasted at CB.
Date: Thu Apr 24 15:59:23 2008
Sender: Doc Barnes
I wouldn't use him too much as the blitzing LB, however he could be effective
if used the right way on blitzes. He does have that kind of look I like for a
LB who is used in coverage against teams that run a Pro 2 or 3 Wr set. Matched
up to defend the TB pass or the slot receiver he could be pretty good for you.
Date: Thu Apr 24 20:21:04 2008
Sender: Lord Bremen
Much too low Rs for LB imo. Blitzing is only useful if they actually make the
tackle.
Date: Fri Apr 25 06:47:18 2008
Sender: Red Burley
That guy should destroy at weak OLB . . . close to the ideal WOLB in my
defensive schemes, anyways.
Date: Fri Apr 25 07:18:52 2008
Sender: Chris Oaks
Thanks for the input. It's been a real struggle figuring out who to put where
on defense at USC this season. My high RS SF/LB types have no PB/RB (which
hurts their ability to make stops), but my high PB/RB guys are all 6 RS. I've
had very little luck with training camp getting those 6 RS guys over the hump
of being good tacklers. Of course, training camp makes it all a crapshoot, so
I'll probably wind up having to move guys around after TC and take the position
change hit early on.
I think I may use Ryan at CB this year. If I move him to OLB, suddenly I have a
glaring hole at #3 CB.
Date: Fri Apr 25 08:04:12 2008
Sender: Henry Morgan
I know what you mean Chris...I asked 3 people what my defense should be and got
three different answers. I still haven't answered the question for myself
really.
Date: Fri Apr 25 09:05:43 2008
Sender: Brian Steinberg
I put my best talent (with CB skills) at CB. If I have more studs I fill OLB
next and then SF and ILB last. Ignore his PB/RB if you don't have a
significantly better CB.
Date: Mon Apr 28 06:47:11 2008
Sender: Chris Oaks
W.Washington ILB So 1 3 6 3 6 5 9 4 16 -- ------ *S B B ILB
F.Young ILB Fr 3 2 7 1 3 3 7 1 10 -- ------ *S C B OLB
C.Hunt ILB Fr 2 3 6 2 3 5 3 4 14 -- ------ *S C C ILB
E.Laplante ILB Fr 2 2 5 1 2 3 2 2 5 -- ------ RS F D ILB
B.Nelson ILB Fr 0 5 5 1 1 1 5 0 9 -- ------ RS F D ILB
J.Loranger OLB So 5 0 9 1 5 5 3 0 12 -- ------ *S B A ILB
P.Shabel OLB So 7 4 6 1 3 3 1 0 8 -- ------ *S C B ILB
S.Olsson OLB Fr 1 6 6 6 1 2 1 3 9 -- ------ *S C B ILB
J.Bretas OLB Jr 4 2 7 2 2 2 2 5 12 -- ------ *S C C ILB
Did I mention that I hate linebackers? Of USC's potential group of starters,
Loranger improved from 8 RS to 9 RS and Bretas improved from 6 RS to 7 RS ...
but all of the others stayed right where they were in tackling. Dangit.
I think Washington's gonna have to be the guy at ILB, because of his ability at
PB/RB ... And I'll pair Loranger with Shabel, because of his speed, weight and
little bit of PB/RB anyway.
The other option is to swap SF Ulloa and Shabel, even though Ulloa's PB/RB
isn't that great. At least I'd have a solid tackler on each side.
R.Ulloa SF Sr 6 4 10 3 2 2 3 4 19 -- ------ *S A A SF
Date: Mon Apr 28 07:03:29 2008
Sender: Chris Oaks
On a related note, is the effectiveness of PB/RB affected by position?
For example, a '7' speed linebacker or TE does not run as fast as a 7 speed CB
or WR. If I blitz a safety with 6 PB, does he have less passrushing
effectiveness as a LB with 6 PB?
Date: Mon Apr 28 11:25:03 2008
Sender: Ken Perry
I think that in "speed vs. padding" the tradeoff by position is that effective
Sp goes down and effective Wt up at padding positions, while the reverse is
true at speed positions.
Basically, don't even think too much about your CB's blocking. WR's usually
block CB's (except on WR screens), and your guy will avoid a few more and make
a few more tackles on running plays.
The difference will be minor, but it's something. It'll also come in handy
defending any WR screens.
It's mostly wasted, but it's not a big deal. The thing I recommend you *avoid*
is the temptation to blitz the CB, as CB blitzes don't work as well in DEL as
in real life.
Date: Mon Apr 28 11:36:41 2008
Sender: Chris Oaks
I have no plans to blitz from the CB position. I do have a different player
that is currently at safety who might be useful as a blitzing LB, which is why
I was asking about the PB/RB tradeoff.
Date: Mon Apr 28 11:46:56 2008
Sender: Ken Perry
Ah, okay.
Date: Mon Apr 28 12:31:15 2008
Sender: Chris Oaks
Thanks for the input, though.
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