Date: Wed Jun 25 00:54:32 2008
Sender: Anthony Young
any real nerds out there can tell me if vista is really as bad as they say?
will this interefere will most of my older software? and cost me a bundle by
forcing me to upgrade most of my existing software that works perfectly fine on
xp. is it worth speeding up buying a cpu just so i can keep XP on it to avoid
having years of software issues?
i think the cutoff is end of june to get an XP cpu.
Date: Wed Jun 25 01:24:51 2008
Sender: Aaron Robert
Hang onto XP. There are no clear reasons to even upgrade to vista at this point
other then it looks alot nicer. If you have alot of old programs you dont want
to part with dont upgrade. Wait around 2 more years then it will be worth it.
Date: Wed Jun 25 09:14:49 2008
Sender: AJ Perko
I have Vista a work, XP at home.
Haven't had any trouble with Vista. Though I do not like the "tab system". I
also have issues with the address bar/toolbar section of my screen being too
large. I'm a minimalist and don't like my viewing area filled with unecessary
gadgets and crap.
Date: Wed Jun 25 09:23:49 2008
Sender: Dan Hilsgen
I highly advise NOT getting a computer with Vista on it. You can either get one
with XP on it that will work great but you will have to upgrade the operating
system on it sooner than later once it becomes too dated for new software. Or,
you can wait and cross your fingers and hope that the next one from Microsoft
isn't a failure on the level that Vista has been. Oh sure, it's got some window
dressing but the headaches are not worth your money.
My recommendation. Buy a Mac. I can't say one bad word about them!
Date: Wed Jun 25 09:37:50 2008
Sender: Morris Cohen
Don't buy a computer earlier than you need just to stay with XP. The Vista
problems are overblown at this point, they're yesterday's news. The speed and
compatibility issues are pretty much all solved at this point. I have XP at
work, Vista at home (opposite of AJ), and I've had no problems. For one thing,
you can configure Vista so it looks and acts pretty similar to XP, if you are
willing to fiddle with the basic settings (or look up where they are).
Date: Wed Jun 25 11:46:58 2008
Sender: AJ Perko
I always have 5 or 6 windows open...
I hate the way Mac, (and Firefox) display them. I want them all along the
bottom, spelled out
Date: Wed Jun 25 12:12:19 2008
Sender: Brian Pate
AJ, on Firefox 3 you can have it open new pages in a new window other than a
new tab under Tools/Options/Tabs.
As for Vista, I just got a new computer yesterday and it's running ok so far.
I generally only run MS Office and internet applications but the few programs I
do use installed fine and seem to be ok. I would've preferred XP as it's as
stable as I've seen from Microsoft but short of playing around with some things
that I'm not comfortable screwing with, it wouldn't let me 'downgrade' my OS to
XP even with the OEM CD I have.
Date: Wed Jun 25 13:44:10 2008
Sender: AJ Perko
I hate tabs
Date: Wed Jun 25 14:39:23 2008
Sender: Kyle Mayhugh
ubuntu ftw
Date: Wed Jun 25 15:05:07 2008
Sender: Brian Dust
"Where's my Tab?" -Homer Simpson
Date: Sun Jun 29 20:15:23 2008
Sender: Dusty Reed
Vista runs great on my Sony FZ, However it's jamed packed with 4GB RAM and a
Core 2 Duo 2.5 processer. It was a pretty penny.
Date: Sat Jul 5 12:53:12 2008
Sender: Christopher E Smith
"i think the cutoff is end of june to get an XP cpu."
I think you're cornfused on this. June 30 is the day that Microsoft begins
phasing out Windows XP by no longer providing copies of the operating system to
PC makers and retailers for preloading on new machines. Aahhh...just found this
tidbit...There are two exceptions to this rule: “white box” system builders and
makers of ultra-low-cost PCs are allowed to continue to preload XP through 2009
and 2010, respectively.
This has no bearing on your current hardware. And there will still be legal
copies of XP, as well as plenty of hardware, available for purchase through
computer/electronics dealers for some time to come.
As is customary for Microshaft, I'm sure they will stop support of Windows XP -
looks like April, 2009, which I have always thought is a very classy thing to
do to customers who have bought their products. But Gates and MS doesn't have
enough money, so they're forced to make moves like cutting support, and trying
to FORCE people into buying their new stuff. I DO like the mention of Ubuntu,
btw! You know, if I bought a copy of Windows 95, and still wish to use that, MS
should still provide support for it. But they need mo money.
Vista's issues have been worked out, for the most part, but overall it is
probably the biggest FLOP ever by MS - even worse than ME? - because of of all
of the issues it had, and because it is a total resource hog. Why else do you
think that MS has been feverishly working on Windows 7 for quite some time now.
Windows 7, btw, is SUPPOSED to be released in 2009, so expect another big deal
about it, just like we've had with Vista.
Bottom line...stick with XP.
Date: Sun Jul 13 15:16:33 2008
Sender: Ryan Perdue
Yep, there are plenty of OEM versions of xp out there as well.
I've used vista and it was so picky about so many of my prgrams and it broke a
lot of things I'd use for listening to media and such.
It didn't enhance my pc experience at all but, I do know some people with a lot
more $$ who love it.
Date: Mon Jul 14 04:22:56 2008
Sender: Brian Dust
Considering Vista requires 2-3X the RAM to operate optimally compared to XP,
without introducing meaningful new features, it's sh!t.
Date: Mon Jul 14 07:38:11 2008
Sender: Morris Cohen
You can't compare the RAM usage for XP and Vista because the way each one uses
the RAM is totally different.
You could on the one hand say that Vista wastes it, on the other hand you could
say that Vista uses your RAM more effectively and aggressively to avoid having
to constantly write and erase things from your hard drive (using your hard
drive is slow).
Acc'd to Microsoft (on obviously biased source but nonetheless a very
knowledgable one) the latter is happening much more than the former.
Vista starts up quite quickly, for instance. Much faster than XP or any Mac
I've seen.
Date: Mon Jul 14 12:01:21 2008
Sender: Brian Dust
Morris,
It's irrelevant if the two systems use RAM in different manners. A machine
with 1 GB of RAM will be fine running XP, yet sluggish with Vista. That's all
that matters.
Cheers,
Brian
Date: Mon Jul 14 15:42:09 2008
Sender: Morris Cohen
True....until you go to 2 GB, at which point Vista actually becomes faster. MS
was counting on much more >2 GB computers being in use by the time Vista was
released, until memory prices went up late in their development cycle.
Obviously that was a bad mistake by MS, and some 1 GB users got burned, but
it's just as silly to make blanket statements like "Vista stinks".
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