Date: Sat Mar 15 20:27:02 2008
Sender: AJ Perko
I swear
if no ones on base they strikeout...
if people are on base its a ground ball double play
I'm feeling this was a bad experiment, and I should have stuck with small
ball.
When was the last time a top HR team won anything?
Date: Sat Mar 15 20:49:37 2008
Sender: Brian Dust
Jeremy Wheeler won the WBL World Series last season with a couple monsters in
his line-up: Wright and Miller.
1203 J.Wright 2B 28 5 3 7 10 10 4 7 2 22 R R 95 137 136 -- A A
446 S.Miller 3B 31 4 5 0 9 10 2 2 2 22 R R 100 146 146 -- B B
64 and 49 dingers last season, respectively.
Date: Sun Mar 16 04:10:35 2008
Sender: Ryan Perdue
I think playing longball was at it's peak when the fences were set at 370
Of course, I played smallball most of the time then thinking, I'll grab some
massive power next year accept then the fields got bigger.
Ever sense that time though, I've really struggled with control pitchers.
My power guys seem to do much better and the control guys walk loads of
batters.
Date: Sun Mar 16 13:14:39 2008
Sender: Bruce Bond
My experience is that you need a little of both. Having all OBP guys means you
better play GREAT defense. Having a lot of power guys means that going up
against a hot pitcher can end your season quickly, especially in a 5-game
series (compounded by playing in a pitcher's park).
The extremes are too extreme as it is right now. Someone wrote in their season
preview about their catcher returning who had only allowed 3 SBs all season.
That's not the only example, just an obvious one, but your gripe about power
hitters is along the same lines.
Date: Sun Mar 16 13:15:12 2008
Sender: AJ Perko
I should have a decent longball offense, I'm just not impressed.
IMO- all things being equal
a 10 contact 2 power
is more productive than
a 8 contact 8 power
unfortunately I sort of committed to this experiment for another 2 seasons, but
as of now I think high power guys strike out too much or hit into double plays.
Date: Mon Mar 17 08:08:23 2008
Sender: Ryan Amari
I've had pretty good luck recently with a power lineup in DBL with my South
Park team (104-67 last season, 34-24 this season). So have the Nantucket
Limericks (7 championships).
This is my current lineup that's 3rd in HRs, 1st in SLG, 2nd in OBP, and 1st in
runs scored:
A.Yates RF 26 6 6 9 9 2 4 5 1 22 L L 100 56 56 -- A A
C.Hammons 3B 35 1 10 3 9 6 1 3 1 22 S L 100 46 41 -- A A
K.Beckstrand 1B 27 1 8 6 10 6 1 3 2 21 L L 100 57 57 -- A A
D.Innerarity 2B 26 2 8 4 10 10 7 2 2 20 R R 100 57 57 -- A A
P.Godding CF 22 0 6 9 7 8 9 2 1 17 R R 100 46 46 -- A A
B.Duque C 28 2 6 0 10 5 6 1 1 21 S R 100 55 45 -- B B
M.Feigenbaum LF 23r 7 7 4 8 2 9 4 1 14 L L 100 51 51 -- A A
D.Fuentes SS 33 7 4 4 8 7 10 1 1 23 R R 100 57 57 -- A A
Having power doesn't necessarily mean having a lineup full of guys with 9 and
10 Pw. Beckstrand, for example, hit 44 HRs last season and is on pace for 41
this season.
Date: Mon Mar 17 09:51:36 2008
Sender: Aaron Burkey
I didn't play back during the fence distance era, however it seems that 10 Co
is still as valuable as it was then, its just that you need 2-3 more points of
Po to make the player into a home run threat. So instead of a bunch of 10-2,
10-3 guys you're looking for 10-5, 10-6 in a batter friendly park. I can't
trust 6-10, 7-9 guys with 500 at bats.
Date: Mon Mar 17 11:01:17 2008
Sender: AJ Perko
You wouldn't think 370' to 390' would make much difference, but it did.
In the first year of EPBL I signed a whole team of
10 contact, 2 or 3 power, good defense guys and played in the tiny park. In
fact I had almost an entire 10 contact "lefty" and "righty" team.
I had the best "contact hitting team in the league" based off 9 & 10's.
I hit 362 HR's (Colorado hit 363).
Twelve in one Game.
Back to Back to Back To Back To Back (once)
4 in a row x2.
Every guy had about 30 HR's.
It was awesome....... then Andy moved the fences.
Date: Mon Mar 17 13:55:24 2008
Sender: Darren Reifler
Personally, I have never understood the concept of building a "small-ball" or
"long-ball" team. Both are ways of saying you want only a partially effective
offense, but are doing it on purpose. I will accept a guy who doesn't hit a
lot of HRs if he makes up for it in other areas, but purposefully signing a guy
because he doesn't hit home runs is just silly.
Ideally, you want both and in the same guy. Find a guy that hits .300, draws
walks, and hits home runs and that is the ideal. My MEL Yankees lead the
league in scoring cause we are second in home runs but also far in front in
OBP. The two guys I have that don't draw many walks hit for average and power.
I do agree that if you filled a lineup with guys that hit a bunch of home runs
but struck out a lot and didn't get on base all that much then you wouldn't be
effective, but a lineup full of OBP guys with no power would only be marginally
better.
Date: Mon Mar 17 20:41:29 2008
Sender: AJ Perko
Darren,
It's not like I won't take a 10Ds, 10co, 10 pwr guy, but c'mon how many are
there?
It is more knowing that you can't change your plans player to player and making
sure the ones you do sign have your requirement.
I know you are a good coach, but I had tremendous success in EPBL with a "small
ball team" . Everyone on my squad was either a high DS, fast or both...
EPBL Philadelphia, was a champion contender for like 5 seasons in a row.
For me it's more a product of knowing the settings apply to everyone.
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