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Date: Wed Nov 21 18:21:06 2007
Sender: Jeff Blevins

I just joined the IBL and I picked up this guy in the 3rd round. This was not a
computer pick.

C.Souza      IF 23r  3  5  1  7  8  4  1  1 13  R  R 100  55  55 -- C C

Is he good as a 3rd round pick? I am thinking he is, but wanted more expert
opinion.


Date: Wed Nov 21 20:40:12 2007
Sender: Brian Dust

Jeff,

Very good attributes for a draft pick.  I'd be thrilled to take a player like
him in the third round!  I hope he has a strong camp.

Regards,
Brian


Date: Wed Nov 21 22:47:27 2007
Sender: Darren Reifler

I agree great pick.  I find that good hitters for some reason are drastically
over-looked at draft time.  Not sure why, but I seem to end up with offensive
powerhouses in the mid rounds.

Of course it all depends on his camp, but for the third round you got my
favorite type of player. The slugger with discipline.  Future firstbaseman if
he has a good camp.


Date: Wed Nov 21 22:58:22 2007
Sender: Darren Reifler

Just to prove I am not lying ;) This is a guy he reminded me of who I drafted
in the third round.  Other than the fact that Ross is an outfielder and a
switch hitter they are near twins at that point in their career.

M.Ross RF 
Drafted #99 overall from Stanford 

Team    AB     H   RBI    HR    BB    SO    SB    PA    PM     E   Avg
OAK    542   139    91    36    68    79     2   361   267    16 0.256 All-star
OAK    509   136   102    43    66    96     3   351   252    16 0.267
OAK    596   178   115    51    86    91    10   511   364    17 0.299 League
MVP
Nas    540   162   120    48    68    81     5   330   239    12 0.300
Nas    596   148   116    50    88   103     5   430   300    14 0.248
Chi    550   168   120    51    74    74    19   356   256    10 0.305
Chi    571   151   109    37    68    89    12   403   303    12 0.264 All-star
Gain   549   119    85    34    73    93     1   432   319    11 0.217
Gain   558   142    94    40    52   103     8   393   301    12 0.254
Gain   518   135    92    37    65    95     5   385   288    16 0.261
Coll   194    62    37    10    27    28     8   124    88     8 0.320
Coll   227    69    53    19    25    35     5   163   124     3 0.304
Coll   202    62    44    11    29    27     4   131    92     7 0.307
Coll     0     0     0     0     0     0     0     0     0     0 0.000
Coll     0     0     0     0     0     0     0     0     0     0 0.000
----  5529  1478  1044   427   708   904    70  3952  2889   136 0.267




Date: Wed Nov 21 23:52:53 2007
Sender: Jeff Blevins

Thanks for the great feedback guys. I am thinking if he has a good camp, that
he might be a starter this year.

Were you in WeBL?


Date: Thu Nov 22 00:10:04 2007
Sender: Brian Dust


Hahaha...a minor point, but Souza actually went in the fourth round, which
makes him a fantastic pick!

Jeff, if you remember, I'm sure many people would be interested to see what he
looks like after his first camp.


Date: Thu Nov 22 00:25:08 2007
Sender: Jeff Blevins

Hahaha...Your right. ;o)

I will definitely put up his stats after camps!


Date: Sat Nov 24 19:38:02 2007
Sender: Chris Blackman

I never draft RH hitters.

LH or SW only - for some reason the sim seems to force RH hitters to hold the
wrong end of the bat when they go to the plate.

CB



Date: Sat Nov 24 20:01:50 2007
Sender: Darren Reifler

So, I shouldn't mention that I just looked at your team and counted about four
guys currently on either your big league or minor league roster that seem to
have been drafted by you and are R R hitters?

880 C.Tracey     C  22r  3  8  4  8  4  6  1  2 18  R  R 100 100  99 -- C C
1286 A.Nelson     IF 23r  0  4  7  7  6  5  1  2 19  R  R 100  92  30 -- C C

Do either of these two look familiar?  Seems that a good part of your last
draft was dedicated to R R hitters even though you never draft them ;).  

Not that it matters all that much, but it is a bit silly to say you would never
draft a righty in the mid to late rounds.  If they are good enough I'll take
them anywhere.


Date: Sat Nov 24 21:48:11 2007
Sender: Dale Schaar

Well since we are asking everyones opinions on draft picks. Do you think this
guy can contribute in the Majors maybe as a long reliever?

1313 G.Harris     P  23r  7  2  2  4  1  5  6  7 18  L  L

Im really short handed in the bullpen and im wonderign if Im making a mistake
by bringing him up too fast. What are your thoughts?

IBL Minnesota


Date: Sun Nov 25 01:21:36 2007
Sender: Brian Dust


Darren,

At least you were kind enough not to write that Blackie's team sucks!


Dale,

I'm inclined to leave the player in the minors.

Regards,
Brian


Date: Sun Nov 25 04:15:34 2007
Sender: B Holder

Dale, I'd leave him in the minors unless you really needed a mop up guy or
something.


Date: Sun Nov 25 04:17:38 2007
Sender: B Holder

My team sucks though and I have no idea how to manage pitching.


Date: Sun Nov 25 04:19:12 2007
Sender: Chris Blackman

Darren,

Wish I had time to debate you on this.

You keep drafting and putting RH hitters in your lineup.  since your doing
research projects - how many RH hitters on my starting lineup?  exactly...

You also neglect to mention that Nelson is batting a sparkling .201 in the
minors, and Tracey is generally used against LH pitchers.

Catcher is a different breed than other position players - i always like to
platoon my catchers - dont know for sure if its wise or not, but its how we do
things in theBlue Sox organization - therefore its wise to have a strong RH
hitting catcher because i can protect him from the RH pitching that dominates
the league.

Would love to continue the chat, but ive got to go and polish my 4 WBL
Championship rings - you dont have 4 of those do you?

Mind you i do have a confession - i didnt read that it was a 3rd round pick -
Lh or RH, thats a great 3rd round pick - my error there.

Have a nice day.

Blackie

Ps i also have a rule that i dont draft pitchers in the first round - and if
you look youll see ive even broken that rule of mine a few times too.

thing is we send in draft orders eh - and from time to time i dont always get
the guy id like, and hey, sometimes i just change it up like a poker game.

and Dust - its times like this id like to punch you in the face.



Date: Sun Nov 25 04:24:20 2007
Sender: Brian Dust


Blackie,

I know you like to spend a lot of your time polishing things, but you should
provide some clarity for Darren by letting him know that last time your club
went to the post-season.  Maybe some RH hitters could help.

Regards,
Brian

P.S.  Does this mean my standing is improving?  I thought you always wanted to
punch me in the face.


Date: Sun Nov 25 04:52:38 2007
Sender: Chris Blackman

hahahaha

fair enough.

cb



Date: Sun Nov 25 08:24:54 2007
Sender: Ryan Perdue

Hi Dale.
Normally, I'd say let this guy pitch in the minors but, there arn't really many
options on you're roster.
At some point, you'll probably be able to find a free agent to replace him.


Date: Sun Nov 25 16:25:44 2007
Sender: Mike Boofer

I'd say he was a fine pick, but I'd never taken or used him.   I won't use a
right handed bat that has more power than contact.  I've just not had success
with them, ever.  

Third rounder that could pan out, but I'd say likely a journeyman or right
handed bat off the bench.  Still plenty of 3rd rounders wash out so at least it
is someone.


Date: Sun Nov 25 20:18:50 2007
Sender: Joseph Zimmer

As for LH or RH batters- all things being pretty much equal I'll move the LH or
Switch hitter ahead of the RH on my draft list. But I usually will not move a
"C C" lefty ahead of a "C B" righty- unless his attributes are something that I
specifically need. I go for the more talented player- especially in the first
round. I don't know if that makes sense to anybody other than myself...

Personally, some of the greatest hitters that I've ever had have been
right-handed hitters. Plus, in the WBL, a few of your *MOST* dangerous hitters
are right-handed.


Date: Sun Nov 25 20:55:34 2007
Sender: Dale Schaar

I have been trying to find a trade out there for someone to take his place so I
could leave him in the minors but i havent had any luck. FA look as bad if not
worse.

Hey its my first season with this franchise, you sometimes have to do things
that you normally wouldnt. Hopefully i can limit his playing time until I find
someone else.

Thanks guys


Date: Sat Feb 23 18:56:24 2008
Sender: Brian Dust

284 LAU  C.Souza      IF 24  3  6  2  7  8  4  1  1 17  R  R   


While Mr. Blevins' tenure in the league may have been brief, this guy has
potential staying power:  39 HR, 103 RBI, 0.432 OBP in the minors last season.


Date: Sat Feb 23 19:19:36 2008
Sender: Mike Boofer

363 D.Kriska     C  23r  4  2  6  7 10  1  5  1 13  R  R 100  53  53 -- C C

And My drafting of this guy contradicts my previous post.

"I will not take a Right handed hitter with more power than contact EVER."

Ok, well sometimes I guess I will.



Date: Sat Feb 23 19:42:26 2008
Sender: Brian Dust

Mike, very exciting pick!  Catchers rarely seem to get love in drafts.  I was
hoping he'd still be there in the third round.  




Date: Sat Feb 23 21:26:37 2008
Sender: Ryan Perdue

I was hoping he'd be there when it was my turn, lol.
Even if he's a bust, still worth taking a chance on.


Date: Sat Feb 23 21:32:03 2008
Sender: Ryan Perdue

In fact, he went right before my pick, lol.
I feel bad though
the first pick was
1628 S.Lessing    1B 18r  0  2  4  4  1  3  4  1  7  R  R 100   0   0 -- F F

I'm sure Dale just missed the draft but, I've done that and it's really tough
with a new team.


Date: Sat Feb 23 21:37:40 2008
Sender: Brian Dust

If a team has an owner, but no draft orders, does BOB make a crappy pick, but
if a team is ownerless, BOB has a better chance of making a good pick?

Compare the player drafted first with the one taken fourth:

1628 S.Lessing    1B 18r  0  2  4  4  1  3  4  1  7  R  R 100   0   0 -- F F

746 M.Chiasson   P  21r  4  3  0  1  5  3  7  7 13  R  R 100  19  19 -- C B

Unless I knew Dale wouldn't have taken a pitcher in the first round, I'm happy
he didn't put in orders.


Date: Sun Feb 24 01:37:40 2008
Sender: Ryan Perdue

I figured, odds are good he would have taken you're guy.
I think bob picks a crappy player if you don't have you're team set on auto gm
and you don't have someone listed to play each position.


Date: Sun Feb 24 12:34:06 2008
Sender: Brian Dust

198 H.Schachter  P  21r  7  2  0  1  6  1  8  7 15  R  R 100  18  18 -- B A


He likely is a magnet for the eyes of GMs scouting draft prospects.  Still, now
that he's in Toronto, I have to cross my fingers he doesn't turn into a turd
after his first camp.


Date: Sun Feb 24 13:29:51 2008
Sender: Ryan Perdue

I like guys like that because even if he goes down an attribute or so, he's
only 21 so he has years and trainging left.
I think he'll be very good.


Date: Sun Feb 24 14:09:36 2008
Sender: Brian Dust

Ryan, for the reasons you listed above, he'll at least be on my minor league
squad even if his first camp is dreadful.  Still, I'd much prefer a late
Christmas present, and have him improve.


Date: Mon Feb 25 09:57:43 2008
Sender: Loren Smith

To be honest, I don't really watch which way the batter hits. I just put them
in my ranking system and let the chips fall where they may.

Of course, I always make sure to try to tweak my rotation when I have a series
with Toronto coming up and I have two or three solid lefties in the rotation.

To the point of the thread...that is a very good pick at that point in the
draft. 


Date: Mon Feb 25 10:45:24 2008
Sender: Joseph Zimmer

Date: Sun Feb 24 13:29:51 2008
Sender: Ryan Perdue

"I like guys like that because even if he goes down an attribute or so, he's
only 21 so he has years and trainging left.
I think he'll be very good."


Date: Sun Feb 24 14:09:36 2008
Sender: Brian Dust

"Ryan, for the reasons you listed above, he'll at least be on my minor league
squad even if his first camp is dreadful.  Still, I'd much prefer a late
Christmas present, and have him improve."

-----------------


Several seasons back I got pretty lucky and had the #1 pick overall in IBL (RFA
signing). At the time I selected who I thought was easily the obvious choice-
pitcher, Milne. You know who was drafted at #6??? Zaroni! Milne didn't do much
after his first camp while Zaroni became an absolute stud! As a matter of fact,
Milne didn't do anything for his first 3 or 4 camps until finally becoming a
7-9 (ar-cn) a couple of seasons back. Now he's a 7-8 but still pitches like an
"A" rated 7-9 guy. I really think he'll return to great attrib's. BUT still...
uhhhh, Zaroni is THE man!

Brian, with that pick you're off to a good start in the IBL. I honestly hope
that he does well in camps and can be an immediate ace for you, bud.



Date: Mon Feb 25 11:00:55 2008
Sender: Brian Dust

Hey Joseph,

What did Zaroni look like in the draft?  Did you have him near the top of your
board?  Hahaha...I hope the Schacter/Chiasson thing doesn't have a similar
outcome to Milne/Zaroni!

IBL Portland eliminated WBL Montreal from DEL Cup a couple weeks ago (Curse you
Ryan!).  Zaroni won the final game of the series.  I looked at his attributes,
and didn't feel badly that my hitters did very little in the game...he's a
stud.

Regards,
Brian


Date: Mon Feb 25 11:21:36 2008
Sender: Joseph Zimmer

Brian,

I didn't post here for you to laugh at and poke fun of my pitcher! I DO like
him, OK?!!! He does give up too many HR's, though.

No, but seriously.... The best I remember most of attrib's were the same as
they are now for Milne- give or take a point here and there. I want to say that
he was a 7-7, maybe 8-7. Probably an 8-7 because i THINK that he was a B-A
while I'm quite sure that Zaroni was a C-B. It's been a while, and he didn't
draft him w.w. signing), but I think that I remember a PR put out by Ryan
saying that he had Zaroni #1 on his draft list- putting him ahead of Milne,
obviously. So I guess that he so something that I didn't.


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